Help beating cloudflare

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  • 3 Feb '23
I have a reverse proxy but the newspaper that  I am proxying is
protected by cloudflare, and the block me immediately, even if I use a
different IP. So somehow they know how to identify my reverse-proxy.
How is my request different than a regular browser? What is giving me up?
can somebody give an example of what are the rules so my proxy passes
for a regular person?
This is what I do now

location / {
proxy_cookie_domain https://www.xxx.com/ https://xxx.xxye.us;
proxy_set_header Host www.xxx.com;
proxy_pass https://www.xxx.com;
proxy_redirect https://www.xxx.com https://xxx.xxye.us;
 proxy_buffering on;
resolver 127.0.0.1 ipv6=off;
proxy_http_version 1.1;
proxy_buffer_size  128k;
proxy_busy_buffers_size  256k;
proxy_buffers 4 256k;
proxy_set_header User-Agent "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64)
AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.82
Safari/537.36";
proxy_set_header Upgrade $http_upgrade;
proxy_set_header Connection $http_connection;
proxy_set_header Accept-Encoding "";
proxy_ssl_server_name on;
proxy_ssl_name $proxy_host;
}
L
  • 3 Feb '23
On Friday, 3 February 2023, Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a reverse proxy but the newspaper that  I am proxying is
> protected by cloudflare, and the block me immediately, even if I use a
> different IP. So somehow they know how to identify my reverse-proxy.
> How is my request different than a regular browser? What is giving me up?
> can somebody give an example of what are the rules so my proxy passes
> for a regular person?

>
OS fingerprinting, TLS fingerprinting, H2/H3 feature fingerprinting.

You will not beat Cloudflare anti bot functionality with a few nginx
settings... this is a rabbit hole.
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  • 3 Feb '23
Hi,

do you forward all headers the browser sends to the server?
The chrome version is very old.
You need to pretend that you are the browser.

Kind regards,
Manuel

> Am 03.02.2023 um 08:54 schrieb Lukas Tribus <lukas at ltri.eu>:
> 
> 
> On Friday, 3 February 2023, Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I have a reverse proxy but the newspaper that  I am proxying is
>> protected by cloudflare, and the block me immediately, even if I use a
>> different IP. So somehow they know how to identify my reverse-proxy.
>> How is my request different than a regular browser? What is giving me up?
>> can somebody give an example of what are the rules so my proxy passes
>> for a regular person?
> 
> OS fingerprinting, TLS fingerprinting, H2/H3 feature fingerprinting.
> 
> You will not beat Cloudflare anti bot functionality with a few nginx settings... this is a rabbit hole.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> nginx mailing list
> nginx at nginx.org
> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
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  • 3 Feb '23
I am sure that it can be done. I am just passing everything to them.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 4:39 AM Manuel <manuel.baesler at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> do you forward all headers the browser sends to the server?
> The chrome version is very old.
> You need to pretend that you are the browser.
>
> Kind regards,
> Manuel
>
>
>
>
> Am 03.02.2023 um 08:54 schrieb Lukas Tribus <lukas at ltri.eu>:
>
> 
>
> On Friday, 3 February 2023, Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a reverse proxy but the newspaper that  I am proxying is
>> protected by cloudflare, and the block me immediately, even if I use a
>> different IP. So somehow they know how to identify my reverse-proxy.
>> How is my request different than a regular browser? What is giving me up?
>> can somebody give an example of what are the rules so my proxy passes
>> for a regular person?
>
>
>>
> OS fingerprinting, TLS fingerprinting, H2/H3 feature fingerprinting.
>
> You will not beat Cloudflare anti bot functionality with a few nginx
> settings... this is a rabbit hole.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> nginx mailing list
> nginx at nginx.org
> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
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  • 3 Feb '23
Lol, that is the point…. Proxies do stuff to the connection that makes it
easy to detect if you know what you are looking for :)

As it stands… you are not going to win this one.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:57 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am sure that it can be done. I am just passing everything to them.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 4:39 AM Manuel <manuel.baesler at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> do you forward all headers the browser sends to the server?
>> The chrome version is very old.
>> You need to pretend that you are the browser.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Manuel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 03.02.2023 um 08:54 schrieb Lukas Tribus <lukas at ltri.eu>:
>>
>> 
>>
>> On Friday, 3 February 2023, Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a reverse proxy but the newspaper that  I am proxying is
>>> protected by cloudflare, and the block me immediately, even if I use a
>>> different IP. So somehow they know how to identify my reverse-proxy.
>>> How is my request different than a regular browser? What is giving me up?
>>> can somebody give an example of what are the rules so my proxy passes
>>> for a regular person?
>>
>>
>>>
>> OS fingerprinting, TLS fingerprinting, H2/H3 feature fingerprinting.
>>
>> You will not beat Cloudflare anti bot functionality with a few nginx
>> settings... this is a rabbit hole.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nginx mailing list
>> nginx at nginx.org
>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nginx mailing list
>> nginx at nginx.org
>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>
> _______________________________________________
> nginx mailing list
> nginx at nginx.org
> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>
-- 
Payam Tarverdyan Chychi
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S
  • 3 Feb '23
I won already.
Thanks to chatgpt.
I asked the question and it gave the answer.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 11:22 AM Payam Chychi <pchychi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Lol, that is the point…. Proxies do stuff to the connection that makes it
> easy to detect if you know what you are looking for :)
>
> As it stands… you are not going to win this one.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:57 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am sure that it can be done. I am just passing everything to them.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 4:39 AM Manuel <manuel.baesler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> do you forward all headers the browser sends to the server?
>>> The chrome version is very old.
>>> You need to pretend that you are the browser.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Manuel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 03.02.2023 um 08:54 schrieb Lukas Tribus <lukas at ltri.eu>:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> On Friday, 3 February 2023, Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a reverse proxy but the newspaper that  I am proxying is
>>>> protected by cloudflare, and the block me immediately, even if I use a
>>>> different IP. So somehow they know how to identify my reverse-proxy.
>>>> How is my request different than a regular browser? What is giving me
>>>> up?
>>>> can somebody give an example of what are the rules so my proxy passes
>>>> for a regular person?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>> OS fingerprinting, TLS fingerprinting, H2/H3 feature fingerprinting.
>>>
>>> You will not beat Cloudflare anti bot functionality with a few nginx
>>> settings... this is a rabbit hole.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nginx mailing list
>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nginx mailing list
>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nginx mailing list
>> nginx at nginx.org
>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>
> --
> Payam Tarverdyan Chychi
> _______________________________________________
> nginx mailing list
> nginx at nginx.org
> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>
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  • 3 Feb '23
Nice job! Though I think what you mean is that you found the answer by
searching, chatgpt or otherwise :)

Keep in mind, chatgpt is trained on 2y old data :)

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:14 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:

> I won already.
> Thanks to chatgpt.
> I asked the question and it gave the answer.
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 11:22 AM Payam Chychi <pchychi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Lol, that is the point…. Proxies do stuff to the connection that makes it
>> easy to detect if you know what you are looking for :)
>>
>> As it stands… you are not going to win this one.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:57 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am sure that it can be done. I am just passing everything to them.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 4:39 AM Manuel <manuel.baesler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> do you forward all headers the browser sends to the server?
>>>> The chrome version is very old.
>>>> You need to pretend that you are the browser.
>>>>
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> Manuel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 03.02.2023 um 08:54 schrieb Lukas Tribus <lukas at ltri.eu>:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, 3 February 2023, Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a reverse proxy but the newspaper that  I am proxying is
>>>>> protected by cloudflare, and the block me immediately, even if I use a
>>>>> different IP. So somehow they know how to identify my reverse-proxy.
>>>>> How is my request different than a regular browser? What is giving me
>>>>> up?
>>>>> can somebody give an example of what are the rules so my proxy passes
>>>>> for a regular person?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> OS fingerprinting, TLS fingerprinting, H2/H3 feature fingerprinting.
>>>>
>>>> You will not beat Cloudflare anti bot functionality with a few nginx
>>>> settings... this is a rabbit hole.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nginx mailing list
>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>
>> --
>> Payam Tarverdyan Chychi
>> _______________________________________________
>> nginx mailing list
>> nginx at nginx.org
>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>
> _______________________________________________
> nginx mailing list
> nginx at nginx.org
> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>
-- 
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  • 3 Feb '23
Yes
2 years ago nginx was very popular.

Federico

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 12:53 PM Payam Chychi <pchychi at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice job! Though I think what you mean is that you found the answer by
> searching, chatgpt or otherwise :)
>
> Keep in mind, chatgpt is trained on 2y old data :)
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:14 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I won already.
>> Thanks to chatgpt.
>> I asked the question and it gave the answer.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 11:22 AM Payam Chychi <pchychi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Lol, that is the point…. Proxies do stuff to the connection that makes
>>> it easy to detect if you know what you are looking for :)
>>>
>>> As it stands… you are not going to win this one.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:57 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am sure that it can be done. I am just passing everything to them.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 4:39 AM Manuel <manuel.baesler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> do you forward all headers the browser sends to the server?
>>>>> The chrome version is very old.
>>>>> You need to pretend that you are the browser.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Manuel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 03.02.2023 um 08:54 schrieb Lukas Tribus <lukas at ltri.eu>:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, 3 February 2023, Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a reverse proxy but the newspaper that  I am proxying is
>>>>>> protected by cloudflare, and the block me immediately, even if I use a
>>>>>> different IP. So somehow they know how to identify my reverse-proxy.
>>>>>> How is my request different than a regular browser? What is giving me
>>>>>> up?
>>>>>> can somebody give an example of what are the rules so my proxy passes
>>>>>> for a regular person?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> OS fingerprinting, TLS fingerprinting, H2/H3 feature fingerprinting.
>>>>>
>>>>> You will not beat Cloudflare anti bot functionality with a few nginx
>>>>> settings... this is a rabbit hole.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Payam Tarverdyan Chychi
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nginx mailing list
>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> nginx mailing list
>> nginx at nginx.org
>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>
> --
> Payam Tarverdyan Chychi
> _______________________________________________
> nginx mailing list
> nginx at nginx.org
> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>
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M
  • 3 Feb '23
How cool is that.

Now I am curious: what was the solution? :-)

> Am 03.02.2023 um 19:46 schrieb Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com>:
> 
> 
> Yes
> 2 years ago nginx was very popular.
> 
> Federico
> 
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 12:53 PM Payam Chychi <pchychi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nice job! Though I think what you mean is that you found the answer by searching, chatgpt or otherwise :)
>> 
>> Keep in mind, chatgpt is trained on 2y old data :)
>> 
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:14 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I won already.
>>> Thanks to chatgpt.
>>> I asked the question and it gave the answer.
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 11:22 AM Payam Chychi <pchychi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Lol, that is the point…. Proxies do stuff to the connection that makes it easy to detect if you know what you are looking for :)
>>>> 
>>>> As it stands… you are not going to win this one.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:57 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I am sure that it can be done. I am just passing everything to them.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 4:39 AM Manuel <manuel.baesler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> do you forward all headers the browser sends to the server?
>>>>>> The chrome version is very old.
>>>>>> You need to pretend that you are the browser.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Manuel
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am 03.02.2023 um 08:54 schrieb Lukas Tribus <lukas at ltri.eu>:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Friday, 3 February 2023, Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have a reverse proxy but the newspaper that  I am proxying is
>>>>>>>> protected by cloudflare, and the block me immediately, even if I use a
>>>>>>>> different IP. So somehow they know how to identify my reverse-proxy.
>>>>>>>> How is my request different than a regular browser? What is giving me up?
>>>>>>>> can somebody give an example of what are the rules so my proxy passes
>>>>>>>> for a regular person?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> OS fingerprinting, TLS fingerprinting, H2/H3 feature fingerprinting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You will not beat Cloudflare anti bot functionality with a few nginx settings... this is a rabbit hole.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>> -- 
>>>> Payam Tarverdyan Chychi
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nginx mailing list
>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>> -- 
>> Payam Tarverdyan Chychi
>> _______________________________________________
>> nginx mailing list
>> nginx at nginx.org
>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
> _______________________________________________
> nginx mailing list
> nginx at nginx.org
> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
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S
  • 3 Feb '23
Cloudflare is reading this.
Please contact me in private.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 4:00 PM Manuel <manuel.baesler at gmail.com> wrote:

> How cool is that.
>
> Now I am curious: what was the solution? :-)
>
> Am 03.02.2023 um 19:46 schrieb Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com>:
>
> 
> Yes
> 2 years ago nginx was very popular.
>
> Federico
>
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 12:53 PM Payam Chychi <pchychi at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nice job! Though I think what you mean is that you found the answer by
>> searching, chatgpt or otherwise :)
>>
>> Keep in mind, chatgpt is trained on 2y old data :)
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:14 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I won already.
>>> Thanks to chatgpt.
>>> I asked the question and it gave the answer.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 11:22 AM Payam Chychi <pchychi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lol, that is the point…. Proxies do stuff to the connection that makes
>>>> it easy to detect if you know what you are looking for :)
>>>>
>>>> As it stands… you are not going to win this one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 3:57 AM Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am sure that it can be done. I am just passing everything to them.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 4:39 AM Manuel <manuel.baesler at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> do you forward all headers the browser sends to the server?
>>>>>> The chrome version is very old.
>>>>>> You need to pretend that you are the browser.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>> Manuel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 03.02.2023 um 08:54 schrieb Lukas Tribus <lukas at ltri.eu>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Friday, 3 February 2023, Saint Michael <venefax at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a reverse proxy but the newspaper that  I am proxying is
>>>>>>> protected by cloudflare, and the block me immediately, even if I use
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> different IP. So somehow they know how to identify my reverse-proxy.
>>>>>>> How is my request different than a regular browser? What is giving
>>>>>>> me up?
>>>>>>> can somebody give an example of what are the rules so my proxy passes
>>>>>>> for a regular person?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> OS fingerprinting, TLS fingerprinting, H2/H3 feature fingerprinting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will not beat Cloudflare anti bot functionality with a few nginx
>>>>>> settings... this is a rabbit hole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Payam Tarverdyan Chychi
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> nginx mailing list
>>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> nginx mailing list
>>> nginx at nginx.org
>>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>>
>> --
>> Payam Tarverdyan Chychi
>> _______________________________________________
>> nginx mailing list
>> nginx at nginx.org
>> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>>
> _______________________________________________
> nginx mailing list
> nginx at nginx.org
> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
>
> _______________________________________________
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> nginx at nginx.org
> https://mailman.nginx.org/mailman/listinfo/nginx
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